Not So Fast Brandon

21 08 2008

by Ethan Greenberg

The baseball season is winding down and talk is brewing on who should win the CY Young, MVP, Manager of the Year, Comeback Player of the Year, all that good stuff. You look at the NL Cy Young and you figure it’s gotta be Brandon Webb- a guy who started the year with win after win and has been very solid all year despite the Diamondbacks inconsistency. Webb probably only needs 2 pitches to get by because of his powerful sinker, but he throws in a few others just to fool hitters a little more. Could you imagine if the D-backs were good all year? Webb could have 21 wins by now and with that many it would rule out anyone else from Cy Young candidacy. But as it turns out, your team performance somewhat affects individual achievement awards.

Then there’s Dan Haren, Edinson Volquez, Tim Lincecum, Ryan Dempster and Johan Santana- all more than deserving possible candidates for NL Cy Young award. Oh yeah, and don’t forget that CC Sabathia guy, who is infact the reigning AL cy young award winner. It would be quite something for CC to win back to back Cy Young’s for 2 different leagues, and there certainly is a first time for everything. I’m not going to waste time wowing you with Sabathia’s stats [ok, I guess I am….8-0, 1.60 ERA, 60 hits, 15 walks, 69 K’s, 13 earned runs in 73 innings, 4 stolen bases allowed, 1.000 winning percentage, I can go on] but CC can pitch yah like the good lord splits yah, or something like that.

It’s simply amazing for a guy who started the year off very poorly for Cleveland, began to improve, and then suddenly packed his bags and headed for Brewery town after Cleveland started their downward spiral. Some people laugh at the notion of a mid season acquisition winning a prestigious pitching award, yet many people consider CC to be more than worthy of serious candidacy. Milwaukee GM Doug Melvin would not be drooling in his ballpark over sellout crowds if it were not for Mr. Sabathia. The great thing about baseball now is that more small market teams are able to acquire players midseason to make playoff pushes. Revenue sharing, where would we be without you?

Many people may not make up their minds about who should win Cy Young until around playoff time or even after the playoffs, because (unfair as it may be) playoff success is often taken into account when it’s time to dish out the awards. In my opinion, that shouldn’t always be the case. Guys like Tim Lincecum and Cliff Lee and Justin Duchscherer play for bad teams, but on a personal level are performing incredibly and could be an ace of a pitching staff for many teams.  So let’s duke it out folks, does CC deserve to be placed in the same category as Lincecum or Webb or any other NL top pitchers? Is there more that CC has to do to prove to the baseball world that he is an amazing pitcher who seems to be more successful in the NL than AL? Where does CC rank among major midseason acquisitions in the history of baseball?

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21 08 2008
Jared Eisenberg

I agree that Sabathia has to be considered for the Cy Young if he keeps it up. His stats are outstanding while leading the entire league in innings pitched, tied in the league with K’s, and holding down an ERA under 3. If he wins out or possibly loses only 1 game, he has gotten be taken seriously. That being said, Webb is having a rediculous year with 18 wins that could easily be 20 or more. 20 wins has always been the threshold for a great year. It will be interesting to see what happens at the end of the year, but my vote would be Sabathia if he wins out.

22 08 2008
Michael DeLuca

If the Phillies were to beat the Mets by a game or two to win the division and Lidge finished out the year without blowing a single save, he would have to get consideration. I know it’s a long shot, but I think Gagne won the award, didn’t he?

22 08 2008
Michael Gill

There has been s few closers who have won the award, but he would have to remian perfect. I think Webb has the advantage, 20 wins makes him a lock. The 20-game winner will be about as rare as the 50 Home Run season will be now that the game is clean.

22 08 2008
Michael DeLuca

“The 20-game winner will be about as rare as the 50 Home Run season will be now that the game is clean.”

Not sure I agree with that. I would think the less runs scored, the less lead changes, resulting in more decisions for the starters. Am I missing something?

22 08 2008
Michael Gill

Yeah, the pitchers are on pitch counts and by the sixth inning, with the quality start they are out of the game and its in the bullpens hands. To many times the pen blows the game for the starter.

There hasnt been a 20-game winner in like 3 seasons.

22 08 2008
Michael DeLuca

Excellent point. I wasn’t taking the pitch counts into consideration.

22 08 2008
Jared Eisenberg

Lidge has 31 saves so far and Gagne had 55 when he won the award. The numbers aren’t even near each other. Even so I would have to say Sabathia would get it before Lidge if he goes with one loss or undefeated. It may be half a season, he has 5 already but a possible 7-8 complete games and and era under 2.00. That would be pretty awesome.

22 08 2008
Michael DeLuca

I’m not comparing the quantity, I was discussing the quality. Doesn’t get much better than 100% and like I said, if the Phils were to win by a game or two, his perfection would be the difference.

23 08 2008
Derrick

Not only do I think Webb is a lock for Cy Young, they may give him MVP too.

25 08 2008
yo sup

webb does have a legit shot for mvp- lidge isn’t quite cy young, but if there were an award for best closer, he’d get it. eric gagne won cy young on steroids- so subtract him and there aren’t too many relievers who’ve won it.

25 08 2008
Michael DeLuca

There is an award for best reliever, it used to be called Fireman of the Year. I think they changed it to Reliever of the Year a couple of years ago.

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